Faith & Social Justice: In the spirit of Richard Overton and the 17th C. Levellers


I’m used to politicians (of all stripes) to lying to people–including politicians I support.  But clergy are a different matter. 

Rev. Rick Warren and I disagree about same sex marriage–as well as much else.  We have very different theologies and even very different understandings of the way faith and politics should interact.  That’s all well and good.  But lying about his views is NOT.  If he’s changed his mind, that’s one thing. But if he lies about his views, that’s something else–it tarnishes the reputation of Christian clergy–and that doesn’t need any more tarnishing. 

On CNN’s Larry King Live, Warren lied.  From the transcript, Warren says, “In the first place, I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay marriage activist. I never have been, never will be. ”   Warren also says, “During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never—never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going.”

Well, Rick, we have video proving otherwise. 

See, Rick, that’s you ENDORSING Proposition 8 IN  A VIDEO AD FOR Prop 8.  So, you lied.

Repent of your lying ways! And, while you are at it,  repent of your homophobia, too.

April 7, 2009 - Posted by | GLBT issues, prejudice


  1. This man definitely lies. The above video proves it, and I heard him make several statements concerning his position during the little controversy after he was chosen to pray at the inauguration. I guess he was wearing his politician hat when he contradicted himself on Larry King.

    Comment by Ralph Reed | April 7, 2009

  2. […] Warren returned to television Monday with a blistering round of self-contradictions which moved Levellers to call him out for fabrication. Warren told Larry King: . . . I am not an anti-gay or anti-gay […]

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  3. Caught him red-handed.

    Comment by john shuck | April 8, 2009

  4. You all are not listening at what he said “He said he was not an ACTIVIST. Yes, he spoke to his church AFTER a church member asked him about it. You are too quick to call him a liar.

    Definition of an activist

       /ˈæktəvɪst/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ak-tuh-vist] Show IPA
    1. an especially active, vigorous advocate of a cause, esp. a political cause.
    2. of or pertaining to activism or activists: an activist organization for environmental concern.
    3. advocating or opposing a cause or issue vigorously, esp. a political cause: Activist opponents of the President picketed the White House.

    Comment by Sheryl Clark | April 8, 2009

  5. Sheryl, this close parsing won’t do. He made a video in support of Prop. 8–that’s activism. He also allowed his church to be used for meetings and rallies of Prop 8 activists. Further, he contributed large amounts of money to the Prop 8 cause. All of which he was quite open about until it became controversial. All those things ARE activism. It would be hard to find something that was MORE activist than making a video urging people to vote for Prop 8. Sorry. This was simply a lie.

    Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | April 8, 2009

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