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Brief Birther Update: The “Kenyan Birth Certificate” is Fake, Folks

Again, the “birthers'” claim that Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen is not about the facts, but about their deeply racist belief that he is not “entitled” to the White House.  But now they are pushing a “Kenyan birth certificate” that they claim is “real” while the Hawai’ian birth certificate is fake. Once more, folks: EVEN IF Ann Dunham had given birth to Barack Hussein Obama in Kenya (a place she never visited), he’d still be a natural born citizen because SHE was a U.S. citizen and never renounced that citizenship–just as John McCain is a natural born citizen even though he was born in PANAMA!

But this “Kenyan birth certificate” is fake for the following reasons (at least)–no matter what Orly Tate says:

  • Although the document circulated is dated February of 1964, it says “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become a Republic until DECEMBER of 1964 (and Obama was born in 1961–Did it take 3 years to get an “authentic” birth certificate?).
  • The document is dated 5 August 1964, a Saturday, but Kenyan public offices are closed on Saturdays.
  • The registrar is supposedly someone named “E. F. Lavender.” According to friends from that part of Africa, “E. F. Lavender” is a well-known brand of SOAP in Kenya.
  • The document looks shiny new.  Unless Kenya was using acid-free paper for official documents way back in 1964, then this document should look far more aged–like my birth certificate from PA looks.
  • Hospital officials in Kenya say that have no listing for any “Barack Hussein Obama” born 04 August 1961–but the Honalulu hospital in Hawai’i DOES.

But don’t let the facts get in your way, birthers.  After all, you didn’t let the facts get in the way when you believed Jerry Falwell’s “The Clinton Chronicles” videotape charging Bill Clinton with several rapes and murders as governor of AR and got the AR state police to cover it up.  You didn’t let the facts stop you from believing the “Swift Boaters” claiming that the genuine war hero (and later peace hero in the Winter Soldier hearings) John Kerry was a coward who didn’t deserve his medals, but that the chickenhawk George W. Bush, who loved the Vietnam War as long as he didn’t have to go and fight, WAS a hero.  You can believe anything in spite of the facts. Watch going too close to the edge of our flat earth, fools.

    August 2, 2009 - Posted by | U.S. politics

    16 Comments

    1. QUESTION:

      What happens to Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation as Supreme Court Justice if the Constitution’s “natural born citizen” Presidential eligibility requirement is subsequently determined applicable to Barack Obama on the basis of Article 2’s exclusion of dual citizenship birth (doesn’t matter whether Obama born in Hawaii since his dad was Kenyan/British citizen at the time)? It would seem prudent, if not dereliction of Constitutional duty in not so doing, for the United States Senate to defer voting on Judge Sotomayor’s confirmation at the very least until there is determination, now imminent, on standing in Kerchner v. Congress (USDC NJ) on that precise issue (Congressional failure to take up the raised and known constitutional ineligibility question prior to declaring a Presidential winner in the vote of the electoral college). For the full Senate now to proceed to vote to confirm Judge Sotomayor (an otherwise lifetime appointment) before then, would be a knowing and very substantial exacerbation of any inherent Constitutional crisis — compounding the previous Congressional dereliction. That is, the Executive Branch, as well as conceivably all actions of a Congress under a President determined ineligible, would leave the Supreme Court as an essential unfettered remaining Branch of the Federal Government, that is unfettered so long as Mr. Obama’s nominee to the Court is not yet confirmed by the Senate.

      Will not one Senator, let alone Republican Senator, raise this issue on the Senate floor? The nation is watching.

      Leave a Reply

      Comment by Jack | August 3, 2009

    2. Jack, you’re living in LA-LA land. The Constitution doesn’t prevent dual-citizens from becoming president, only naturalized citizens. And even if BOTH Obama’s parents had been non-citizens, his being born in Hawai’i would make him a natural born citizen. The Supreme Court has rejected several lawsuits from your kind as completely without merit. Do you honestly think a SCOTUS dominated by the likes of Roberts, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Kennedy would hesitate to declare Obama ineligible for office (just as the Renquist Court rigged the 2000 election for W) if your views had the SLIGHTEST merit? They have ZERO.

      You birthers are so incredibly far into delusions, you need minders. You are not safe to let into traffic by yourselves.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 3, 2009

    3. It is amazing that, according to one poll, a large percentage of Repubs believe this “birther” craziness. Just like Jack above they live in a world of their own under their rocks. I have had one comment on my blog that Obama’s real father is Frank M. Davis, the poet and activist friend of his grandfather, which would make Obama a “real” citizen. Since the McCarthyites “investigated” Davis, these nutcases say that Obama was influenced by a “Communist.”

      Comment by Ralph | August 3, 2009

    4. Obamabots will say & do anything to protect him, even thogh they know he is hiding every single document he can.

      HERE IS ONE HUGE PROBLEM WITH YOUR NARROW MINDED THINKING !

      This is a typed up copy, not a photocopy of the original. that was typed 3 years after Kenya became a Republic. So that argument quickly makes no sense and it only took just a little bit of thought. A good try though.

      Comment by Mike Fuller | August 3, 2009

    5. Mr Westmore, You really, really need to read up and do some research before you open your mouth. This is pretty straight forward for anyone following this case. Not one court in the land has said this case has no merit and its alo impossible to have no merit. How can “being forced to prove you are within the laws of our constitution” ever be without merit. EVERY SINGLE CASE WAS DISMISSED ON A NARROW TECHNICALITY THAT THE PERSON BRINGING THE SUIT “DOESN’T HAVE STANDING” TO BRING THE CASE. They used this as a technicality to dismiss the case. So educate yourself before posting a totally incorrect comment.

      Better perceived a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt !

      Mike

      Comment by Mike Fuller | August 3, 2009

    6. The real issue is not whether Obama is a citizen of the United States (which he IS). The issue with “birthers” is that he is a Black, Liberal President !
      Let’s call it what it is – these people do not want a man of mixed race as President and they wil use any means to try to hurt or demean the man… I am a proud Southerner and I have seen this type of behavior all of my life and some people cannot get beyond pigmentation ! It’s a damnable shame too !!

      Comment by Paul | August 3, 2009

    7. Exactly, Paul. I am also a child of the South–all it’s glory and shame. It’s NOT coincidence that the strength of the birthers is in the South or that most of them are white and Republican.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 3, 2009

    8. I’m being told to do more research by someone who gets my name wrong when it is spelled out right before him.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 3, 2009

    9. I believe that the birthers are mentally ill. I mean that. No hyperbole. Those who truly believe what has been proven over and over again to be false are mentally ill. It isn’t so strange that the inbred portion of the right wing would fit so easily into this category. What is bizarre is the number of GOP politicians who are catering to the knuckle-draggers and mouth-breathers. It is dereliction of duty on their part. It should be a crime for an official to foment anxiety and unrest among the simple-minded in society.

      Comment by Mike Kear | August 3, 2009

    10. For the record, I am not an “Obama-bot.” I voted for him, but I am a large critic from the left.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 3, 2009

    11. To be fair, Mike, the left produces its share of nutcases, too. I finally had to ban all discussion on this site of the conspiracy theory that the Bush administration helped Osama bin Laden plan 9/11. No facts ever dissuaded them, either, and their ranks include a few liberal theologians who I otherwise respect.

      Of course, a major difference is that this view was only ever a fringe view on the left and never an obsession of the mainstream media. As far as I know, no Democratic elected officials ever espoused that wacko theory while dozens of GOP officials are birthers or flirt with birtherism.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 3, 2009

    12. http://ancavge.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/shocking-new-birth-certificate-proof-obama-born-in-kenya/ Is what is portrayed on the link real? Do you get to call me an idiot, zealot or liar because I want to know?

      Do you believe a fellow who flunked out of Occidental College was accepted to Columbia after a Sabbatical to Afganistan and Pakistan (when they were on the banned list for travel) applied or travelled as a US citizen? You must declare at 18,no exceptions, your citizenship. His US passport was obtained through back door channels for the first time as a Senator of Illinois to travel and lobby for Odinga. Check these ‘facts’.

      His Aunt and half-brother emphatically stated they were in the room when he was born in Kenya. I do not know of a retraction as any further interviews are hindered and all journalists investigating the issue are arrested by the Kenyan Gov’t and the US State Department whisks them out of the country after purging their belongings.

      Obama’s trip to Hawaii to see to the end of his sequestered grandmother (who knew the truth and was isolated from the world at the beginning of his run) included an unscheduled stop at the records office and a confidential visit to try and hinder any investigation.

      How do you feel you have the insight and monopoly on the facts to and what is the wierd critical bitterness that you dispay for others raising legitimate questions about our constitutional rights and the process of law?

      Are you not the least interested in his communist, moslemic, socialist, de-development associations, much less the embracing of Radicals and terrorists? I am the person without the facts?

      Why do you doubt the undermining, documented communist agenda? Why should US taxes be forwarded to the UN under cap and trade to be spent as they see fit only abroad? Is not my 10% called for by Jesus enough for you to save the world?

      PS- John Mccain is not a natural born US citizen. Neither am I. I was born in Canada and carry the same State Department birth certificate. McCain was illegally declared eligible by a vote in the senate. It takes a constitutional amendment to qualify him. He was setting the groundwork as a white, wealthy, elite, politician for Obama’s 2012 run. Did you miss all the press hype when prior to the election they started tossing possibilities of foriegn populars like Arnold about and ‘should it be amended’? Hillary collapsed under the burden of not being pinned by and fearing the the race card and calling Obama out for what he is and the scheme fell into place a cycle earlier. Shed your guilt you foolish Baptist and clear your mind.

      I am also a Baptist but, your guilt and baring of the prior white man’s burden is unjustified here to lay on the cross in defense for this scoundrel. You will see the lies multiply as the press becomes less enchanted.

      find Peace and lose your bitterness. The “flirtation with the birthers” is legitimate. So is the Constiution.

      Comment by Clyde Edinger | August 4, 2009

    13. Mr. Fuller,

      The court systems are overburdened as is. We cannot afford to visit the court system to disprove every specious claim against one’s self.

      Mr. Obama has provided his birth certificate. The hospital verified his birth. Hawai’i verified the birth certificate’s authenticity. There is a published birth announcement in the paper.

      The burden of proof is on the Birthers. If there is a legitimate legal case it is libel against the Birthers. Of course that would be distracting.

      Comment by Steven Kippel | August 4, 2009

    14. John McCain IS a natural born U.S. citizen–even though born in Panama because his parents were expatriate citizens. You seem to lack even a cursory knowledge of the law, Clyde.

      Comment by Michael Westmoreland-White | August 4, 2009

    15. These aren’t “facts” as you call them, they’re “fabrications” as reality calls them.

      Michael, don’t feed the trolls.

      Comment by Steven Kippel | August 5, 2009

    16. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/08/05/birther_faq

      *The state of Hawai’i confirmed several times the birth certificate was real.
      *The state of Hawai’i placed the two newspaper birth announcements
      *The Kenyan birth certificate is a fake, as Michael points out.
      *Obama’s Kenyan family told Ron McRae he was born in Hawai’i, he ignored this.
      *There was no ban on travel to Pakistan in 1981.

      You’re not a liar, you’ve just been deceived. But in the face of the facts when you continue in your ignorance you are an accomplice to the lie. You disseminate lies.

      Comment by Steven Kippel | August 5, 2009


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